The Feminist Masculinity
April 12, 2008 by Kristen
Forget the title, we should probably just take “masculine” out of the picture just as we take “feminine” out. What female wants to be described as “feminine” (shrinking, timid, ladylike, well-kept), and what male wants to be described as “masculine” (grunty, gruff, muscular, insensitive, sports-watching)? (To be fair, I can think of a few on either side.) But, my guess is that more males prefer the latter than females the former at this point, most likely because “not masculine” is often a euphemism for “gay” in American society, and we all know how dire many males think it is to be thought gay. Gasp! When it comes down to it, though, there is something fundamentally wrong with a culture–a sexist culture–where “femininity” and “masculinity” are considered to the ideal for female or male. While feminism overtly addresses the issue for women, it shouldn’t be forgotten that feminism also has the aim to make men feel more free–and less culturally constrained by a “macho masculinity”. I don’t think it’s too much to ask that we have a culture in which a person confronted by a “sensitive” man will not think that s/he has automatic information on his sexuality
This question came up at the Intergenerational Feminists panel at the New School. At the end of the question and answer session, a young man raised his hand and asked whether the panel thought that patriarchy affected only women, or that men also were adversely affected. And very clearly, as the panel agreed, patriarchy affects men just as it does women. Men are expected to fulfill the “masculine” in society. What happens to men who don’t like watching hard-core porn?: “Dude, man, are you gay?” What happens to men who don’t want to play sports, who like classical music, who become emotional? Stereotypes and placed-upon identifications. To what extent does our culture construct the male who must be the guy’s guy and who can only relate to women through the male/female divide, and how does that constrain/strain heterosexual relationships?
At the Organization of American Historians conference in late March, I went to a panel about alternative visions of motherhood and childrearing in 20th century U.S. where Lori Rotskoff (Barnard Center for Research on Women) gave a talk titled, “Raising Free Children: Feminism, Motherhood, and Nonsexist Childrearing in the 1970s and 1980s,” where she talked about the song/album “Free to be…You and Me.” The song, nearly universally heard by a generation of children raised in more liberal and progressive homes, was part of the “non-sexist” child-rearing movement, which was seen as a part of the larger project of second wave feminism. It was/is children, after all, who would build the future–and so a “fairy tale” feminist future could arise by raising children who were “free to be” who they were–without the fetters of assigned gender roles. Just as in many of the standard feminist texts (Friedan, Beauvoir), it was all about self-actualization. Even then, though, Rotskoff spoke of how one of the creators of “Free to be” still found it necessary to reassure parents something along the lines of: “Don’t worry–this mantra won’t make your son gay.” Which–besides the innate homophobia of the statement–meant that even the creators, the second wave feminists, hadn’t embraced full self-actualization, they were still placing cultural normatives on certain behaviors, still were afraid, in some part, of the de-masculinized male.
The question is: are we any better today?
In the first paragraph of your blog you defined feminism:
(shrinking, timid, ladylike, well-kept) and then defined masculinity:
(grunty, gruff, muscular, insensitive, sports-watching).
In the second paragraph you stated here that, “When it comes down to it, though, there is something fundamentally wrong with a culture–a sexist culture–where “femininity” and “masculinity”are considered to the ideal for female or male.”
In restating here I feel that you have taken the stereotypes of men and women and used them as a definition for what feminism and masculinity is in the eyes of the world. But don’t you think that feminism and masculinity is simply what it means to be “man” and what it means to be “woman”. Because we ARE different, we DO have a different physical make up and we DO relate to things somewhat differently at times because of the way we were wired.
I don’t think that makes us less or more important than the other though. On the contrary working together in the world, in life, one is complimented by the other because we both have different things to offer.
Femininity and masculinity are the ideal for men and women because it is who we are. I think that our culture has just redefined what it means into something in which it was never intended.
I hope that makes sense and know that I’m not trying to be hostile or rude.
Thank you very much for your post and for being neither hostile nor rude. I really appreciate when people are honest but respectful with their opinions.
I think, first, that we need to look at “femininity” and “masculinity” as terms that have a history, that are not static in their meaning, but which have certain definitions attached because of a construction, over time, of what our (and by that I mean western, and in this case particularly American) society has designated as “femininity” and “masculinity.” Thus, femininity and masculinity aren’t what women and men are, but what society thinks they should be.
Are men and women different? In today’s society, yes, in many ways they are. There are different bodily experiences, but most importantly we are all socialized within a society that designates certain interests for girls and other interests for boys. But, I am saying, that in a different society, which designated different such experiences, we would have different definitions for femininity and masculinity. Nothing is “ideal,” it is only social and historical. You can see many different examples of what was “feminine” or what “woman” was considered in different societies over time and place. I will write a different post soon, highlighting these.
I don’t want it to seem that I am hostile to men or women who identify as necessarily masculine or feminine within contemporary definitions; I am only hostile to the idea that society often places these as an “ideal” on women and men who do not see themselves in my (admittedly rather flippant) definitions. And I also think it essential for people to question their personalities more, not just accept the easy norm, stand up for themselves against the burgeoning social forces.
Why am I hostile to these socialized definitions? Because it isn’t how many men and women whom I know “are.” I would never consider myself “timid, ladylike, well-kept” yet I still consider myself a woman, and an ideal woman for who I am. The point is that there is a diversity of identities and personalities, and the fact that men or women feel unable to fully express their personality/identity because it does not fulfill a gender norm is a very definite problem.
I do see your point and where you are coming from. I’m still not sure that I agree with you completely (I would probably have to hear more about where your coming from) but I do see your point.
Afterall what are blogs for but to offer your views and opinions on the issues that matter most to you.